Legislature(1995 - 1996)

04/19/1995 08:10 AM House RES

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 HB 256 - FREE SPORT FISHING DAYS                                            
                                                                               
 Number 262                                                                    
                                                                               
 BRUCE CAMPBELL, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO REPRESENTATIVE PETE               
 KELLY, PRIME SPONSOR, said HB 256 allows the commissioner of ADF&G            
 to select one or two days on which an individual can go fishing               
 without being required to have a fishing license or tag.  He stated           
 HB 256 means that someone could, in conjunction with Fishing Is Fun           
 Days or other promotional activities for fishing, take the kids               
 along and the adult would not have to have a license.  This would             
 provide the opportunity to determine if the kids enjoy fishing.  He           
 noted HB 256 is supported by a number of sport fishing groups                 
 around the state.  He urged the committee's support for HB 256.               
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PETE KOTT felt there should be a substantial fiscal            
 note attached because revenue will be lost.  He noted there is a              
 zero fiscal note attached.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 299                                                                    
                                                                               
 JOHN BURKE, ACTING DIRECTOR, SPORT FISH DIVISION, ADF&G, said the             
 department supports HB 256.  He stated free fishing days offer                
 people, who do not ordinarily fish, the opportunity to experience             
 fishing without having to buy a license.  He noted a free fishing             
 day, in conjunction with National Fishing Week activities or winter           
 fishing carnivals, can bring people into recreational fishing.  He            
 explained free fishing days are used as a centerpiece for the                 
 department's aquatic education activities, which the department               
 sponsors in schools.                                                          
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE stressed education depends a lot on motivation.  Fishing            
 for many children in Alaska is a tremendous motivator.  He felt any           
 type of educational activity built around something kids like, they           
 do well at.  He said the department uses fishing as a motivator to            
 teach people conservation, angling ethics, and sometimes spin-off             
 activities such as sciences and math.                                         
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE said there may be some initial loss of license or king              
 salmon stamp sales but ultimately sales will be on the plus side.             
 Over the long term, there will be more recreation fishers and at              
 that point, there will be more license sales.  He stated the only             
 possible negative aspect of HB 256 is if the free fishing day(s)              
 turned into a king salmon derby during the height of king salmon              
 season where people would not fish any other day except for the one           
 free day.  He felt that would not happen.                                     
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE showed an aquatic education handbook developed by the               
 department which gets distributed in schools.  He said the                    
 department also runs a pathways to fishing clinic often at the same           
 time.  Mentors are distributed around stations and people pass                
 through the stations with about ten minutes per station.  People              
 are taught how to fish, how to tie knots, shown where the fish may            
 be, etc.  He showed the committee several textbooks used in the               
 school systems.  He also described several educational tools used.            
 He showed several pictures of family fishing days which are                   
 presently held throughout the state.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 392                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT recalled Mr. Burke mentioned that having free             
 fishing days would bring families together and provide an outing at           
 no cost.  He thought children do not currently pay for licenses.              
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE said that is correct.  Children get a free license.                 
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT felt one of the problems with having a free               
 fishing day for parents who do not ordinarily fish is that those              
 people may not be familiar with regulations or habitat and could do           
 more damage than good.  He asked when the department is proposing             
 to provide these days of free fishing.                                        
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE replied National Fishing Week occurs every year and large           
 celebrations are held throughout the state.  He said the free                 
 fishing day(s) would occur during National Fishing Week as a                  
 centerpiece for those activities.  He stated the activities are               
 largely for children but the department has found through the                 
 pathways to fishing program, many people going through the program            
 have never fished before.                                                     
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT said his question is when specifically would              
 the department plan to provide the free fishing days.  He asked               
 would the days be together or would there be two separate days.               
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE replied the free fishing days would be at the discretion            
 of the commissioner.  He said National Fishing Week is in June.  He           
 was not sure about the time for a winter free fishing day.  He felt           
 the department would probably try to promote some unified day                 
 enabling people to become acquainted with winter fishing.  He                 
 stressed HB 256 does not mandate any free fishing days.                       
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked if there were other states who have                 
 similar free fishing days.                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE replied 44 states have free fishing days in conjunction             
 with National Fishing Week activities.                                        
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT questioned why the state would want to provide            
 the opportunity of free fishing days to nonresidents.                         
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE stated it would be impossible to enforce resident versus            
 nonresident.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 455                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT said in his fishing experience, he would guess            
 that 60 percent of the fishers are nonresidents and they usually              
 are the people violating some provision of law regarding fish and             
 game.                                                                         
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE stated it would be highly unlikely a nonresident, who               
 came to the state to fish, would fish on one day only.  He felt one           
 free fishing day probably would not preclude nonresidents from                
 buying a license.  He reiterated if there is abuse, HB 256 does not           
 mandate a free fishing day.                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT felt it would be very difficult to determine if           
 abuse was ongoing.                                                            
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE NICHOLIA asked what the impacts of free fishing days           
 would have on the Kenai River and the Copper River.  She noted the            
 declining runs of king salmon on the Yukon River and the Tanana               
 River.  She wondered if streams having low returns would be off               
 limits during the free fishing days.                                          
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE replied the streams with low returns would not be off               
 limits.  He said he did not know what the impact of free fishing              
 days would be on the Kenai River.  He stated free fishing days                
 would take place at best during the king salmon fishery, not during           
 the sockeye salmon fishery.  He noted the king salmon fishery is              
 fairly well controlled, as in order to do it, a person has to have            
 a lot invested.  He did not feel free fishing days would bring any            
 more people than the number there now, because people fishing on              
 the Kenai River now already have the gear required.  He pointed out           
 in regard to the Yukon and Copper Rivers, those places are fairly             
 difficult to get to and he did not feel large groups of people                
 would go for one specific day of fishing.  He did not think free              
 fishing days would affect those areas.                                        
                                                                               
 Number 510                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE NICHOLIA noted people are very concerned about                 
 erosion on the banks of the Kenai River.  She asked if HB 256 would           
 have an impact on that problem.                                               
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE replied no.  He said the king salmon fishery takes place            
 almost totally from boats.  The erosion on the banks is primarily             
 concerned with the intensive sockeye fishery occurring later in the           
 season than when the free fishing day would occur.  He stressed it            
 is a matter of timing.                                                        
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE OGAN asked what the date is for National Fishing               
 Week.                                                                         
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE replied June 6-12.                                                  
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE OGAN expressed concern about the free fishing days             
 because in his area there is a big problem with king salmon.  He              
 said the fishery is heavily fished by road access.  He wondered if            
 the department is projecting a lot of fish being caught during the            
 free fishing days.                                                            
                                                                               
 MR. BURKE stated someone who is clearly a king salmon fisherman               
 would be fishing anyway and have a tag.  He said if the free                  
 fishing day ended up being a derby day, the department would either           
 have to change the date and make the day earlier, or perhaps not              
 have the free fishing day at all.  He pointed out he does not know            
 any king salmon fishermen who want to go fishing just once a year             
 but perhaps they might take their family on the free fishing day.             
                                                                               
 Number 550                                                                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS noted there was no quorum present.  He said              
 the state has a sport fishery which is very well advertised and               
 there are many problems with that fishery now.                                
                                                                               
 MR. CAMPBELL stated the sponsor's goal is not to increase problems            
 but rather provide a mechanism for educating people about the                 
 problems.                                                                     

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